Who gives a shit about?

HERDER is harder – who didn’t read that headline somewhere before? And well, even if it sounds like a cliché it’s just kind of a rule the band is dominated from. No fucking compromise! There was that story about HERDER taken off from stage during a show in the Netherlands, and even escorted outside the venue by the security, because it has been too loud. So basically, prepare to become deaf. Who gives a shit about? Well, that question you knew already.

In early November HERDER is supporting the Americans BLACK TUSK – and to prevent misunderstandings, HERDER is not playing the support for in Dresden.

To get a few words about the never stopping party machine HERDER we got in touch with guitar rapist and volume terrorist Jeroen.

MM: Finally HERDER is coming to our festival! What was the last year’s reason for delay? How you’ll make it work this time?

Jeroen: We’re much stoked to be finally playing the fest. Last year unfortunate conditions outside of our control blocked us from doing the gig but this time we took action in our own hands in time to make it happen so we have no intention of missing out on this one.

MM: Your live appearance in Germany is in general a bit low, isn’t it? How comes?

Jeroen: Limitations in time prevent us joining the full run with BLACK TUSK in November. This leaves only two shows in Germany for that tour, but there’s stuff in the pipeline and Germany has always been a good place for HERDER to play shows, so expect more of us in the near future.

MM: HERDER is promising to be a loud and fucking heavy band. Is there any definition for heaviness? Does it fit to the morbid aspect we are focusing?

Jeroen: Genuine heaviness creates an urge to destroy and any band that achieves this can be called heavy as far as we are concerned. I don’t know if you answered Tom Warrior’s call with your festival name, but in front of the stage you guys can bring it on as sick as you want, we’ll enjoy it all the more!

MM: HERDER is known also for a band that doesn’t give a shit about compromises. Besides the loudness what does this mean? What HERDER is standing for in general?

Jeroen: Giving no shit about compromises should be the starting point for any band to be taken seriously. With HERDER it’s no difference, we don’t care what you think of us and if we want to tour with Missy Elliot, you can bet your white ass we will.

MM: By the way, what happened last year at Dutch HILVERSUM festival?

Jeroen: For that HILVERSUM show they booked a band whose adagio is „Herder is Harder“ and then expected us to turn it down and down and down because of some bullshit volume agreement they have with other venues. So at some point the guitar amps were less loud than the drums and then they even asked our drummer to hit his cymbals less loudly or change to smaller cymbals. Total retardation, so that was the end of the gig.

MM: And you were guided out of the venue?

Jeroen: Yes, because we were pretty pissed off with how it all went. They called security to escort us out and keep us from entering again.

MM: I’ve heard at least this year’s HERDER show at ROADBURN, so getting close to stage was impossible, but that wasn’t too loud. Have you done any compromise or am I deaf already?

Jeroen: Generally we try not to ruin a show with bad sound, so we always adapt as much as we can to get the best result. But the visceral impact is an important part of the live experience so prefer to have it loud.

MM: But who is the loudest band in the world? Still MANOWAR?


MM: With “Fergean” the third real album, if we count “Horror Vacui” as an EP, was released in April this year again via Reflections Records. By checking it out it is still HERDER: short, but massive as usual and aggressive as fuck. There was some rumor you are following on “Fergean” any lyrical concept, what’s the point behind?

Jeroen: We have always been intrigued by how humanity is generally unable to stop destroying itself and the title “Fergean” (which is Frisian for ‘to decay’) was the overarching concept tying together the songs. Absence of hope and redemption through death basically.  The album might be short, but in loud music the shorter records are usually more inviting for a second spin so we’d rather hold on to the tension and keep people pumped than let stuff meander along.

MM: Well, we are just looking forward to your show in our festival. Are you handsome guys? What people do have to expect?

Jeroen: You’re more than welcome to inspect that for yourself. Prepare for a drunken and loud onslaught!

MM: By the way, think of earplugs.

Karsten Richter